QWAK,losing a friend -- selling a DREAM! :(
 

QWAK,A friend just droped by returning my ZIPPO lighter I lost playing MONSTER with the kids at the weeny roast last sat evening.:23_30_104::36_3_13:

He had bad news too the family with the 5 kids -- there father just got FIRED monday for NOT modivating the 14 mechanics that worked at the truck repare shop and making QUOTA which they RAISE 20% the previous month!:censored::censored:

Sam works for the same company and figures he could be next and did not like the place much and was thinking of quiting any way -- Sam don't take no S**T and has walked away from lots of jobs in the passed.

I can't believe he is looking to SELL his place and move on but Tommie -- his wife wants to move too so most likely in the next fiew months the will.:bawling:

He has offered me first chance to BUY :yes: --- 43 achers ,1200sq ft double wide on a foundation with a deck (GREAT VIEW in to sun set over his DUCK POND) a small green house,2 drilled wells and 1 doug well,12 achers pasture the rest in timber,a 30" natural waterfall on the property (I have not seen that yet) lots of fencing. He raises a fiew cows and goats for food, and a good size work shop. $125,000.00 It is about 3 miles from the DUCK NEST!

I am STUNNED both at the offer and at losing thease friends.:yes::thumb.aspx::confused_ma:

I have been telling both Sam and Tommie that most of the GIM people I talk to would LOVE to have what they have got but the ICE storm last winter and the ISOLATION realy got to Tommie and she don't like being out there alone when Sam is at work.

BTW: The live on "FREEDOM ROAD" -- no fooling!:452:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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Hate to hear the bad news..

The waterfall....

Hydro power
comes to mind..if the water runs most or all
of the year.

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His loss is your gain potentially. Time to look over your books. Sounds like a sweet place for the asking price.

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There's plenty more of this to come, I'm afraid.

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Duck Egg,

Sorry to hear you are losing the only reliable neighbours you have, at such a crucial time. Very sorry indeed. Call you after I see Freddie's cats.

Max

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QWAK,Golddust,He had never mentioned the waterfall befor today -- yea you are RIGHT it has potential as FREE POWER depending on the flow and location.:thinkey:

I would have to manage 2 properties about 3 miles apart and maintain HEAT in winter and also SECURITY as it is OUT in the BOONIES -- Sam hunts DEAR from the back DECK or his dear stand at the edge of the woods on the far side of the pasture. Said he had a bear out there last year feeding at the dear feeder!:36_1_25:

I wish I was 20 years YOUNGER! :yes::4_1_72::36_1_25: Or at least had a partner that could HELP!:thumb.aspx::4_1_72:

Going to have to so so SEARIOUS PONDERING on this!:yes::yes::yes::thinkey::thinkey::thinkey:

Perhaps set it up as a GIM CLUB HOUSE?? :questionm:questionm:dontknow: :thinkey: :36_1_11:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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what state ?

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QWAK,gunDriller,I live in ARKANSAS -- I am about 1/2 way between Fayetteville which is the collage town and very SOP growing at about 10% a year the last 20 years HQ for WALMART and the new international air port and Fort Smith which is much more COUNTRY and layed back. About 25/30 miles to either but can do ALL back roads to Ft. Smith.:s1:

It realy IS just about a perfect location and about 3 miles from Sam and Tommies place is ware that DOCTOR set up his Y2K compound!:yes:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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Use micro hydropower to make moonshine, turn it into a GIM "Gentleman's club" clubhouse (with very exclusive membership, of course - a GIM round to be used as proof of membership), have lots of "guns for fun"... poker nights, survival gear testing weekends, etc...:565:

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QWAK,Jimfrancisco,HUMmmmmmmm :thinkey::thinkey: as much as having a bunch of DRUNKS runing around with GUNS apeals to ME:confused_ma::36_1_25::452::452::452: (NOT) I think a GIM LADIES "SUGAR SHACK" "SURVIVAL CAMP" would way more FUN for ME!:yes::wink:

Never was much for BRAGING about who has the BIGER GUN!:452::wink::hahaha::thinkey:

I am 1/2 way searious about a GIM CLUB HOUSE/survival camp :yes::thinkey:

I know of two GIM members who have mentioned coming to visit and one has been here a fiew times so it could be a very real posability!:yes::23_30_104:

I do like to SHARE and the location is -- acording to Edgar Casey -- suposed to be a SAFTY ZONE for the time of TRANSITION!:yes::shine:

the DUCK :thinkey::15_1_70v:

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43 archers would kick ass! I can imagine them plucking yew all over the place.

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[QUOTE=GOLD DUCK;1962028
BTW: They live on "FREEDOM ROAD" -- no fooling!:452:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:[/QUOTE]

Well Don, there are some GIMette's interested in organic farming and we are all looking for Freedom Road. You need any help setting up the Yurts, let me know.

Keef

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QWAK,Long NIGHT -- heavy rain 5"+ did a lot of PONDERING -- and pumping of water out of the GREEN HOUSE bath river and pond systems!:yes::36_1_25: Aparently the whole state is under FLOOD WATCH -- best place to be in times like this is on top a mountain!:yes::wink:

I can MAKE IT HAPPEN :hahaha::thinkey::yes: the second "DUCK POND":23_30_104: but even the FIRST was never intended just for ME :452: it was intended to SHARE with OTHERS!:36_3_13::thinkey: :yes:

There is ALSO the GREATER REALITY that "BLAST OFF has OCCURED" and the GOLD I would have to sell or traid to make it happen -- WILL EXPLODE in PRICE at the same time price on HOMES and LAND will likely go down because NO ONE can pay CASH and no BANK FINANCING will be avalable to most people who want to buy.:yes::banghead::confused_ma: In the future there could :dontknow: likely WILL be even BETTER deals? :questionm:dontknow:

I want to do somthing SPECIAL :23_30_104::23_31_2: but it will take SPECIAL PEOPLE with HEARTS and MINDS in the RIGHT place -- other wise it is just a REPLAY of the FIRST "DUCK NEST" and I am too OLD to do that AGEN and it was not much FUN doing it ALONE the first time.:452::signs14: That would be truely INSANE!:10_1_19::confused_ma:

I guess it sort of comes down to -- I can't do IT alone :452: I can't develop and defend the two seperated properties and it is only TRUELY a workable IDEA/CONCEPT if others are involved and COMMITTED to a long term project.:thinkey::yes:

No man or DUCK is an ISLAND:452: -- even if the ISLAND is in a POND in your back yard!:thinkey::36_3_13::shine:

Lots more PONDERING to do on THIS ONE!:thinkey::banghead::confused_ma:

PS: I the stove pipe on the boiler for the HEATED DUCK POND (my home made HOT TUB) is blocked :yes: -- in the fall BLUE BIRDS ocasionaly pirch on the top of the stove pipe to get warm and fall down the pipe and block it -- SUICIDAL BLUE BIRDS of HAPPYNESS!:thinkey::banghead::confused_ma: I am reluctent to see it as a SIGN from ABOVE -- but it WOULD make my PONDERING better IF I had some 104 temp water to ponder in!:wink:


the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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sounds good. is there such a thing as a "tornado survival strategy" in that neck of the woods ? e.g. a 2 story fortified basement.

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You're right Duck, that property isn't going anywhere SOON, but we know the price of gold has just started wave III. No need to act on it right away, time is on ur side by waiting and watching. Maybe you can find a fellow survivalist looking for good property and have a good neighbor/ally in the future.

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I wonder how far into the property is the waterfall? Thinks of transmission losses and amount of cable needed to get power to house, etc.

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QWAK,gunDriller,Yes we do get strong storms and tornados too -- we were under a WATCH most of last night and got TORENTIAL RAIN 5+ inches!

Sams place is over the ridge and farther in to a valley and last spring he had a BACK HOW come in and dig the hole for a "T" shaped root celler/storm shelter in front of the double wide.:thinkey::23_30_104:

In so many ways he has things all set up and much potential for the future:yes: it seems CRAZY to me he would even concider WALKING AWAY!:confused_ma::thumb.aspx:

It is hard on his wife being alone out there:yes: this is RUGED COUNTRY :yes: and being ALONE out here can get to a person!:yes::36_1_25:

I have been BACK and FORTH between CRAZY :confused_ma::10_1_19: and SAINE :wink::questionm SOoooooooooooo many times :yes: it is like the WELL WORN krucked path down to my MAIL BOX :yes: -- its NOT so bad any more for ME:452::confused_ma: -- I have 8 cats and 2 dogs with me when I check the mail -- THEY make SHURE I don't get LOST or CONFUSD!:yes::111::4_1_72:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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QWAK,Keef,As soon as Sam told me I told him I would put it out to my GIM friends to talk about and that IF I did not BUY it perhaps some one at GIM would!:yes: (great minds think alike :wink:)

I went from just a 15'x30' empty shell with NO WATER here and it was harder than I imagined :yes::thumb.aspx: -- Sams place is SET UP and like a TRUN KEY operation from the get go!:23_30_104:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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QWAK,NotTheOne, ME TOO! :yes: I will talk to Sam about than and perhaps IF the weaher lets up go see it this weak end.

Tommie is geting some tests done and has not been well for some time so will have to see if they want company.

Bottom line is I realy want Sam and Tommie to stay but if they go -- then what?

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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What about selling your place, Duck, putting it back to "normal", and then using that cash to buy their place? Or do you really want to keep the nest as well?

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QWAK,Jimfrancisco," putting it back to "normal" --:hahaha::cry1: Far too much of ME in this place ever to me NORMAL:36_1_30: for at least an EON or TWO!:shine:

Think STONE HEDGE:thinkey: -- done by a DUCK!:confused_ma::4_1_72:

Blood -- SWEAT and TEARS -- lost friends and LOVERS -- a part of ME will always be here even after I am DEAD I will likely HAUNT this place!:yes::4_1_72::wink:

It is not the $$$ I can do the deal in HARD CURRENCY --- GOLD and SILVER -- mostly it is incredably HARD doing it ALONE and like it or NOT I am geting OLDER :yes::banghead: I turned 60 last Aug. and this year I realy noticed the slow down and lack of energy. Time is an ILUSION but my BODY lives in that ILUSION and I don't BOUNCE like I once DID! :452::wink: Even back when I did bounce I mostly went SPLAT and it took a wile to HEAL from taking a FALL!

BTW:I just talked to Tommie and it is a WET WEATHER water fall out passed the DUCK POND and you can hear it from the back porch after a good rain.

She just wants to move, lots of things like the long dirt road that some times in bad weather is not drivable (her words) --- it is a wonderfull view but now it seems like it is closing in on her.

She would like to be out befor winter sets in hard Late. Nov or early Dec.

Personaly -- I hardly do any thing FAST any more:452: I go slow and try to avoid mistakes:thinkey: --- My Dad would have said "HALF ASSED MISTAKES" :wink: "Come from going FASTER than you should have GONE:36_1_30: but you DON't KNOW:452: till YOU GET THERE!" :hahaha::thinkey::banghead:

I am glad my GIM friends are sharing this little adventure with me :yes:-- Good to have some one to talk it out with -- other than the DOGS and CATS -- they ALWAYS agree with ME -- I'M the BOSS -- mostly--- because I can drive the car and get more FOOD!:yes::111::4_1_72: :10_1_19::confused_ma:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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That property sounds great. Wouldn't be a bad idea for a group guys to split the costs down to around $20-25k each and share the land.

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I would be very sorely tempted if it were not 4,500 miles away from my family and if I were 20 years younger.

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QWAK,argentos,If I were 20 years younger I would not question it for a SECOND -- thing is 20 years ago I could NOT aford to buy it! :452::confused_ma::banghead: NOW I CAN!:thinkey::23_30_104:

Things happen when they happen:thinkey: the ILUSION of TIME just distorts our perceptions and PRIORITIES so they seem NOT the right TIME!:confused_ma::10_1_19:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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Duck, think upon it for a while. If your brain says buy it, then buy it. If it says no, then don't. Ignore the fact that they are your friends. You seem to have a good sense of intuition, so go with what you really feel - after a good long soak and think in the pond!

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I have no idea what I should do if I were in your situation, Duck.

I'm a little bit older than you (66 and creakier-jointed than you, I 'spect) and think about what would happen if I become more demented than I am already :confused_ma:, or physically disabled.

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QWAK,argentos,You make a good point.:yes:

BTW: Tommie mentioned there is a CLIFF with about a 100' drop near the waterfall too:23_30_104: -- I have not had my ropes and repelling gear on since 81! I uesed to LOVE the free feeling of hanging on a rope 100' off the ground and taught lots of people how -- it is eazy.:23_31_2:

The JUMPING OFF is fun and exciting :yes: -- it is the getting back up there to JUMP agen that wares you down:confused_ma: Not shure it would still be that much FUN or that I could get back UP with out a HELICOPTER!:dontknow:

There is also that aspect that IF I DO get hurt out there ALONE -- I'm BUZZERD FOOD!:36_1_25::yes:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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That should be quite character-building when the snow is deep and crisp and drifted! :signs14:

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Duck, I was just down your way last week. I love NW Arkansas. A good friend bought a place back in 1984 that was the retreat/compound for the Rockabilly group Black Oak Arkansas. He purchased seven acres with 6 cabins a swimming pool and lake front for $56,000 back in 84. He has turned it into a very popular fishing resort valued over a $million today.

I sure envy you being in the position you are in.

Pics
http://s951.photobucket.com/albums/ad357/BullShoals/

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I envy the guy with the "crappie attitude" holding the fish on that boat.. gorgeous scenery!! :s9:

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I can see the sign now:


Gold ducks wizards academy.

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That is my friend "Rich" His brother "Michael" is the guy pictured at the front of the boat and the owner of "Black Oak Resort" I am the one behind the camera.

The scenery down there always gets me all relaxed and at peace.

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:23_30_104:QWAK,argentos,We rarely get much snow and it tends to melt off in just a fiew days when we do.

You don't go out in the woods:36_1_30: or I don't any way, much in bad weather :452: the far corner of the 40 the DUCK NEST is on, I have only actualy seen 3 or 4 times and the last time was 1992 if I remember right -- just no good reason to go back there!:452:

The back 20 is steep and wooded with several BENCH steps down to a small creek I had thought it would be a great camping site but totaly WALK IN no way to get a 4x4 it or out of there.:452: The 40 was loged back in the late 40s and they left the back 20 alone as no way they could get the logs out back then.

Speaking of TREES -- the DUCK NEST is surounded by BLACK WALNUT TREES! :23_30_104: KNOWING what Black Walnut costs for furniture and gun stocks I suspect the GOLD MINE is actualy out side my door GROWING --year after year!:yes::shine:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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QWAK,Tallships,>>>> http://www.trailjournals.com/images/...miley-face.jpg

Once a WARLOCK -- always a WARLOCK I guess:dontknow: -- its realy just METAPHYSICIS!:yes::4_1_72:

the DUCK :15_1_70v::wink:

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QWAK,Dawg,That is a great looking place!:36_1_11:

There are many realy nice places here BUT not much out there ware the VIEWS are SPECTACULAR -- a long way to town for shoping -- on dirt roads and you are very much on your own for services -- local volenteer fire departments NEVER seem to save a structure.:452:

It is very diferent from living in a city or even in a small town.:yes:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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The whole place sounds idyllic. Apart from having the excellent wood do you eat the walnuts?

btw what does "the back 20" and "the 40" mean?

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QWAK,argentos,Opening Black Walnuts is a lot of work for not much NUT!:452::4_1_72: Mostly they are a nusance and when they fall on the roof they can make a loud noise some years they are as big as tangereans but they are about 50% hull and 40% rock hard inner shell!

The Front 20 achers were bulldoze cleared, the back 20 is totaly the way nature made it.:s1: it is a SQUARE with one corner crossing a small dirt road and the oposit corner on the small creek and down the steep side of a ridge with several flat benches down to the creek. ROUGH and RUGGED!:wink:

Back in the OLD DAYS after the cival war the road in front of the DUCK NEST was part of the BUTTERFIELD STAGE line road -- FAMOUS for STAGE COACH roberies!:yes:

In the John Waine movie "True GRIT" it was Fort Smith that he was taking prisnors to be HUNG by Judge Parker who hung them 6 at a time and the GALLOWS are still there!:yes:

More recently back in the REAL GANSTER DAYS:yes: -- Bonnie and Clide and many of there friends spent time hiding out in and around this aeria!

There is a place just a couple miles as the crow flys from the DUCK NEST they call "HIDDEN VALLEY" I heared some people up there got M60s and even the STATE POLICE don't go in there -- I did about 12 years ago seraching for my lost BEGAL DOG "Lonsome" and it was SPOOKEY and I was being watched every second!

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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Thanks, Duck.

I know so little about the US of A




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and even less about black walnuts. I'd imagined they must be like ordinary walnuts but dark. :bear_rolleyes:

I had a quick google for the Butterfield stage route and found it was chosen for being snow-free, which fits in with what you said earlier!

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Bah, ha, ha, ha. And other characters.

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Oh damn this server! (Sorry G Khan) It is the Duck's nasty, sudden ice storms and his tornadoes which are the character builders locally, Argentos. Plus some of his insane neighbours, not the ones mentioned. If you want the character building, long lasting, sort of snow, come to Canada. Could send some brochures!

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...what kind of bugs and crawly critters you got there?

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QWAK,Goldhedge, More than I can count and discover new ones all the time :yes:-- there is life every ware -- this a moderate climet not too extream in less you live in a totaly AC and central heat CITY existence ware NO BUGS are allowed. :4_1_72:

BUG tolerence increases the farther you get away from the MAN MADE "DEAD ZONES" -- CITIES!:yes::111:

I have an electric fly swater -- if they BUG ME inside the house they get a WARNING -- then I ZAP THEM!:yes:

I think bugs are DEAF:yes: -- they never listen:36_1_30: when I warn them to STAY out side!:452::4_1_72:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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'Twas not The Duck's snow, but the possibility of snow atop the 100 foot precipice that I thought would be character building! :biggrin:

"Ice Road Truckers" is shown over here and I can vaguely remember films (movies) from my childhood about the NWMP so I know it's cold up there Maxine!

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hey, if Matt Savinar can convince a bunch of yuppies to pay $$ for "survival seminars", so can a bunch of us.

you just need some bandwidth & the ability to run a big Skype (or MSN Messenger) video teleconference.

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If GIM ever wanted a central location for a "Bug Out Camp" that would be it.

Right now, everyone is comfortable sitting behind a monitor in their own homes, but in the future we might want/need a central meeting place not dependent on the Internet to share ideas. We may have to form our own mini-communities to survive.

That property isn't going anywhere. If there is a use for it for the survival community, time will reveal that also.. And as the price of gold goes up over this next rise we will have members wanting to trade that gold for property, assets, ways to make a living independent of a crumbling society.

There is enough knowledge on this board to make property like that very self sufficient. Or just to set up a bug out location for those that have none.

If a man has gold, I believe you will be able to buy property like that very easily in the next two years. No need to rush, but it is a good idea to have your eyes on what you want to trade your gold for when the price of that gold should be peaking in the next 24 months.

Don, you may have to break out the camera and take a few pictures.. when the weather gets better.

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QWAK,Keef,I can't get that $500.00 camera to down load it's hard drive in to my computer!:censored::censored::censored:

It is chuck full of stuff I wanted to share here at GIM but for some :censored::censored: reason I don't understand and is probably VERY SIMPLE :yes: it is or has been a PAPER WEIGHT for about 9 months now!

Very FRUSTRATING :yes::36_1_25::censored::banghead:

Going to fill up my new JERRY cans with gas now :yes: I just took my boiler flu pipe apart -- NO BLUE BIRD of HAPPYNES in there :452::wink: turned out I used some FIRE PLACE chemicals that DRY OUT the CREASOTE -- -- it all fell down and pluged up the 6" pipe -- I am covered in soot but at least NOW I can heat up the pond and PONDER on what to do about Sams property.:banghead: :thinkey: :dontknow: :stupido2: :questionm

I think I will offer to BUY at his price :yes:-- pay him in GOLD and SILVER (I want them to have some GOLD and SILVER if only in partial payment :s1:) and sugest that Sam take Tommie on a 3 or 4 month VACATION:23_30_104::23_31_2: check out Texas (ware they want to move next) I will watch over the place over the winter and THEN in the SPRING -- make up there minds for shure!:thinkey: Perhaps Tommie will change her mind and TOO, with the DOLLAR looking like it could lose 50% FAST in a devaluation:censored: I don't want my friends HOLDING the BAG the BANKERS are about to hand EVERY ONE!:452: I REALY don't want them to go!!:452::452:

Good friends I can TRUST and be HAPPY with are MORE VALUABLE than GOLD -- to ME!:36_3_13::yes::shine:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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You could pay �300 to be covered in soot and given a hot tub at one of those New Age Spas! :banana:

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QWAK,argentos, Shure seems like a "STONE AGE SPA" to me!:wink: In the ROCK ROOM -- it is sort of PRIMITIVE and FUTUREISTIC -- I have all sorts of lights out there from HP Sodium from hydroponics experiments in my old batchlor pad :wink: to LEDs that are self charging battery strings and other types. I have purple and yellow ROPE lights that can dance to music :yes: and 3 24LED flying saucers over the heated DUCK POND! I realy LIKE to play with LIGHTS -- Got BLACK LIGHTS and STROBE lights too!:yes::36_1_25:

Also have asorted CANDLES and oil lamps of various sizes -- PONDERING is more than JUST -- TAKING a BATH:yes: -- it CAN BE an ART FORM! :wink::111::4_1_72::shine:

I had GIs in NAM lined up to get in to a 55Gal. Garbage drum:23_30_104::yes: I cleaned out and put under the shower head at the LATREAN -- a HOT BATH is somthing from HEAVEN when guys have been out in the BUSH for a weak or more:23_30_104: and all you can get is a cold/slightly warm shower!

A lot of "SCREAMING EAGLES" 101st , got a HOT BATH in MY DUCK POND :s1:-- befor I was a DUCK that is! :4_1_72:

You do the BEST you CAN with WHAT you GOT:thinkey: and discover YOU can do stuff you never would have thought of doing!:thinkey: One MUST get CREATIVE if only--- NOT be part of the INSANITY! :confused_ma:

It will carry YOU away with it -- IF you let it!:thinkey::yes:

You can take what comes and ADAPT it to your needs.:wink:

Granted -- patching all the bullet holes in that SAIL BOAT did NOT work out as PLANED.:452: But for a wile in a very crazy place I OWNED my very own SAIL BOAT and wile fixing it and painting it -- I was OBLIVIOUS to the INSANITY!:shine:

Also a GREAT adventure pulling it threw a mangrove swamp bare foot and then there was the MINED BEACH:hahaha: -- that was EXCITING TOO!:yes::36_1_25::confused_ma:

That SAIL BOAT was a HELL of a lot of WORK and FUN :yes:and an ADVENTURE I will always treasure!:shine:

We can't change WHAT IS:452: -- we can only CHANGE how WE chose to relate to WHAT IS -- but THAT sort of changes -- EVERY THING! :yes::shine:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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There must be some clever computer-camera-techy-expert person on GIM who could talk through the problem one to one and get it sorted?

It's not me though. http://goldismoney.info/forums/attac...1&d=1255220451

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i'll take a shot at it. duck do you need some tech support for your camera?

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QWAK,Went over to Sam and Tommies yesterday -- they had to show me how to feed and water all of there animals and Sam took me around a bit showing me the second pond and the WATERFALL and the GORGE it flows in to --- WOW!!:23_30_104:

It is MAGNIFICENT -- very ruged geting to it but a bulldozer could make a much easier axcess to it,also it may be the location of the long missing SILVER MINE or very close to ware it was because a very old lady from the aeria tells of going to a place close to the mine with her father and his muel. He would not let her go to the mine as it was too dangerous for a child (the gorge is AWSOM and very deep well over 100' with slipery edges) he would go to the mine and load up the muel and be back for her in about a half hour. It is extreamly rugged back there and it took Sam and my self about 15 min to get to the water fall and it is only about 400 yards from the house AS the CROW FLIES -- we had to go the LONG way around! :hahaha::yes: This DUCK don't FLY like a CROW!:wink::452:

The location of the old sight of the smelter is known and fairly close but the old mine entrence was blown up and no one now alive knows exactly ware it was.:452::banghead:

I have a fiew weaks to decide IF I will buy the property -- we are working out the spicifics but MY big problem is that I am 60 not 30 or even 40 and with out a partner and a lot of actual physical help taking care of and developing BOTH properties may be more than I can do. :dontknow::stupido2::questionm

It is SOoooooooooooooo PERFECT I hate to let the opertunity pass --- the place is VERY SPECIAL :yes: I just FEEL IT!:yes::shine:

I need HELP and I both WANT and NEED to SHARE this special place -- both Sam and Tommie want to find a place closer to a small town and seem determined to go BUT I don't feel I CAN or COULD do the deal ALONE!:452::signs14:

It would take most of my savings -- which is OK but with out the strenth and indurance I once had (I was huffing and puffing just walking to get to the waterfall:thumb.aspx:) I have searious dbouts I can do what has to get done.:dontknow::questionm:questionm:questionm

On top of the 2 ponds and 3 wells,work shop,green house barn for cattle etc.etc. and all the other great stuff -- YEP for REAL:yes: there could well be a VERY RICH SILVER MINE under it!!:yes::yes::thumb.aspx::10_1_19:

GOD has a WICKED sence of HUMOR:yes::banghead: Why could the DUCK NEST not have been THERE in the first place:thumb.aspx: or this opertunity happened when I was 30 insted of 60?:banghead:

Half of me is SCREAMING --"DO IT! do it! DO IT!" and the other half saying:hahaha: "You know what happened last time with the DUCK NEST!":452::452::452::10_1_19::banghead:

the DUCK (very confused :confused_ma:) :15_1_70v::10_1_19:

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Wow, sounds great. What I do to start, is make two columns down a sheet of paper. One side are the Pluses +, and the other side the Negatives -. Just start jotting them down in any order. No matter how silly or trivial it seems to you, write it down!

I also like to make a "wish list" on a second page: What would be the IDEAL for me?

Don't rush it, & hopefully it will give you some further insight!

I would be very wary of becoming 'cash poor'. You never know what property taxes will do in the future. And the cost of keeping animals not only in FRNs, but labor intensive too.

Keep us posted & good luck!

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QWAK,MNeagle,The paper and list tecnique is helpfull BUT MUCH of what is going on in my MIND is at a METAPHYSICAL level.:thinkey::shine: Both the DUCK NEST and "What ever I call THIS place" are projects that will OR I would INTEND that they GO ON long after I am GONE! :yes::36_3_13:

I am 60 -- no way around THAT:452: and IF I don't do somthing STUPID:confused_ma: I may have 10 or 15 :dontknow::questionm years left at a diminishing physical capacity -- that TOO is REALITY! :yes:

BTW: At the top of the waterfall last year Sam found a 6 point BUCK partialy EATEN and it was either by a BEAR (lots of bear sign around the aeria) or a COUGAR and lost of nice places for either to den up right there. Sam would not go down there with out his S+W 9mm straped on for protection!:452: The place is WAY RUGGED -- one could imagin no one had ever been there befor AND IF you got HURT out there alone and could NOT get out by your self -- some thing WOULD most likely EAT YOU:yes::36_1_25: and you would never be found!:452::36_1_25::yes:

Cash poor IS a concideration too :yes: how ever NOT from TAXES :452: Last year the taxes on the property was --- $98.00 TOTAL!:23_30_104::36_1_11:

This friday or saturday Sam and Tommie are going to take off for Texas and I will feed the cats,dogs,chickens,ducks,pigions,and doves,the 3 goats,two donkies,and the two beef cattle IF the cattle have not been trucked out befor they go.

IF I take the place over most likely I would also take over the two big dogs ALSATIONS,one donkie and the birds.

I feel like it should be a NO BRAINER :yes::thumb.aspx: but at 60 and all by my self I have some searious dbouts!!:dontknow::dontknow::dontknow:

It would be GREAT IF I could share this place with some IDEALISTIC GIM type people -- sort of a GIM CLUB HOUSE or CAMP GROUND! :questionm:dontknow:

This is NOT:36_1_30: just about ME :452: I dbout I will be around all that long to see it become what it COULD BE!:36_3_13::shine:

IF I could JUST find that formula for "WHITE POWDER GOLD" and it wonderfull healing and rejuvinating properties ---- HUMmmmmmmmmmmm. :yes::shine:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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Well, Duck, I can understand your age worries.

I'm 66 and the week before last the doctor (and the x-ray) told me that the pain in one arm I'd had for weeks was not "real" but the result of interference with nerves from age-related wear and tear between the neck vertebrae. There is no magic modern cure. So I have had to accept that I'm wearing out, which I really did not want to know!

However the property works out for you - I wish you well. :yes:

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QWAK,argentos,IF I am right about this place IT was concidered a SACRED PLACE ware long befor the european settelers came the native americans (don't know what would be right to call them) found SILVER SO PURE right out of the ground that could easaly be SMELTED with WOOD FIRES!:yes::36_1_25::23_30_104::getdown:

It could be a totaly self sustaining operation with animals and even a SILVER mine that could be operated very small scale to provide HARD CASH for developing the property in to somthing very SPECIAL ware there is both PEACE and HARMONY with nature :36_3_13::shine:---- at least until the REDNECK ZOMBIES find out! :36_1_25::111::4_1_72:

See what I mean :wink:-- just NOT a ONE MAN JOB! :452: :111::4_1_72:

the DUCK :confused_ma::10_1_19::15_1_70v:

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it probably has proprietary software that almost forces you to use its programs to get your pics. Is it a Kodak?

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Duck, my uncle is in his mid 70's. I am half his age. He stays active, building things (at the minute he likes to build wals in the garden from rock - why? I don't know. But it keeps him fit as hell. He can lift his anvil and walk across the workshop with it to the other side of the workshop (4 cars wide) - I can lift it and carry it about two feet. He's fat, old, and deaf, but he can still do everything I can do and more.
He worked in a flour mill carrying sacks half his life, boatbuilding the other half. I'd say you are probably good for another 25 years if you look after yourself. And if that seems short - think how long it took you to reach 25 in the first place - seemed like forever!
Do what your heart tells you - you like this place. It sounds fantastic.

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Duck ... does your camera have a removable a memory card?

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Hey duck,

Where abouts in Arkansas? is this place. I have some relatives around there and I am somewhat nearby in the southeast of Springfield, mo area. Could be something. Let me know or PM . Thanks

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Sorry to hear about your friends being hurt Duck, so sad many people being hurt. The property sounds wonderful. If things keep deteriorating at my 'shop' I maybe looking south for habitat, getting too old for this colder climate, don't have the intestinal fortitude of my fellow GIMers in Canada (don't know how you guys put up with the cold for so long).. I like the seasons. I have been contemplating a life change, so much has happened this year that kinda tipped my world off it's axis, but I know many people are having similar life altering experiences. Thanks for sharing the reality in your part of the US.

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QWAK,Tallships,Actualy I have two cameras one -- the older one does use memory cards but the new one has a HARD DRIVE and is much better. :s1: I replaced my computer and have not been able to get either to work properly ever since!:banghead::banghead::banghead:

I always have a bunch of projects going on so taking pictures has not been high on my priority list -- computers tend to FRUSTRATE ME so I just do somthing else. :yes::36_1_28:

I also bought a picture frame that stores pictures and vidios and sound --- I intended as a GIFT but could not send it because I could not load in to its memory all the stuff I wanted to send. :banghead::10_1_19:

I just don't have mutch paitence for technical stuff any more!:452::36_1_28: Too much real life situations that must be delt with day to day living out in the boonies is very diferent from being in a city or town. :yes:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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Duck !

If you can find the time,,,He,He..

I am sure their are those of your friends here that can and
will help you out and get you fixed up....

I know that ducks are always on the move...
Never sit still for long....:yes:

Edit: And are hard to pin down for anything except din din and lady ducks!

They are always are loud and very opinionated!! :biggrin:

You need to take the time to fix your camera problem.:ok:

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QWAK,Golddust, I know -- I KNOW! :thumb.aspx::banghead::banghead: At the moment I am trying to pack a "NOTHING DAY BOX" a suprise for some one and got to UNPACK it because I forgot to put somthing in :banghead: -- then I got to run it to the post office 15 miles of dirt roads and listening to some vintage Bob Dylan as I drive.:23_30_104: I have been INTENDING to change the oil and filter on the truck for about 2 months and should do that TOO:yes: -- plus the DUCK POND is LEAKING BAD :36_1_25: I got it DRAINED and the plumbing pulled apart SO I can't even PONDER the last fiew days! :favorites21::452: :4_1_72::10_1_19:

It is like I am in SLOW MOTION for almost a YEAR now!:thumb.aspx: I can't seem to get TRACTION mostly just SPINING my WHEELS and trying to just ACCEPT what comes as it comes.

I used to do SOoooooo many things befor LUNCH that NOW some how ends up taking DAYS --- I am begining to think :thinkey: that GOD is messing with MY CLOCK agen :wink: GOD does that a LOT:yes::36_1_25: -- he has a WICKED sence of HUMOR -- perhaps just a TOUCH of SADISTIC -- just for FUN of corse!:wink::36_3_13::shine:

I was runing SOooo hard for SOoooooo long and now I just sort of let things happen or UNFOLD rather than PUSHING to MAKE things happen. I guess it is part of my geting OLD?:questionm:dontknow:

the DUCK :10_1_19::15_1_70v:

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I can understand

Tho I did add a edit to my post...

Kinda hard to get the flesh moving if the
spirit does not want to budge..

And it is unthinkable

A Duck without a pond. :bath:

That







That





is





Against nature.......

:36_1_30:

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That could work out just fine if someone was so inclined. Solar panels for the good weather and a rain waterfall driven paddlewheel/turbine generator to recharge the batteries in poor weather.

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That could work better if above the falls you could
build some kind of dam to store the water that
would normally free flow..

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You are only as old as you allow yourself to feel. You might just see 100 duck. You never know.

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QWAK,Tallships,IF I find the formula for "WHITE POWER GOLD" that may be posable -- I supose. :yes::111::cry1:

the DUCK :ok:

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QWAK,IF this deal goes down I will have TWO new ponds and one even has an ISLAND --- Same said he had planed to build a PONTOON bridge out to "DUCK ISLAND" -- just never got around to it! :yes::111::cry1:

the DUCK :ok:

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QWAK,Golddust,When we were down looking at the water fall Sam mentioned just that posability along with bulldosing a road/path down to the water fall would increase the amount of water and you could have a valve to release water in to a turbine.

Big project but do able. :yes:

the DUCK :ok:

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Hey Don de Duck

What makes you think you are old at 60? When I was 60 I was still sailing the briny deep, taking care of "bedness" at home and generally keeping out of trouble. Hell, I was 62 when I bought this place on the White river and did a bunch of work on it. Now, at age 82, I've kicked back and pursue my love of slaying large trout with small flies.

Age is a state of mind and your life is what you make it. Buy that silver mine, rent the mobile home and become a Land Baron. :coolbeer:


James & Big Black Dog named Gidget
White River, Arkansas

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Good job James! My grandmother is 94 and doing great. She has arthritis in her legs, but still lives in the same house since the late 1940's. 60 really is the new 40.

And to Duck, I really enjoy your posts and positive attitude. You didn't ask for my opinion, but I say GO FOR IT! :565: :23_30_104: :applause_ :banana:

-Max :15_1_70v:

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QWAK,James/flyfisher Unfortunately over the years my strenth and indurance has tapered off and the amount of actual physical effort nessary to MAKE IT HAPPEN will require a gread deal of help from others.:yes:

I have basicly been it TOTAL SURVIVAL MODE for over 30 years now and it does take its TOLE and it limits what projects one can actualy do ALONE.

I have been working on the DUCK NEST over 25 years now virtualy TOTALY ALONE and with out help even small jobs are 10X+ harder -- not to mention a lot LESS FUN!:banghead:

Dad only made it to 62 and I have many of the same problems he had.

I know it IS DOABLE :yes: and at 30 or even 40 I had no dbout I could do it all even IF I had to do it all by my self. :yes:

From 40 on :thumb.aspx: actualy GETING IT DONE took longer and longer and even the DUCK NEST is far from being up to contemporary standards and is very UNCONVENTIONAL.

I no longer have EXCESS ENERGY or TIME to BURN and at 10x+ I must be realistic about what I can do.:yes::36_1_25:

The other aspect that concerns me is that when I started the DUCK NEST project I had expected the same "SNOW BALL" effect to happen but it just never did!:banghead::signs14:

I am inclined to be extreamly IDEALISTIC and most people like to say or believe they are but in actuality -- don't LIVE IT!:452: When it gets HARD -- they EVAPORATE!

I have found that the story of "The little Red Hen" -- is very TRUE in REAL LIFE for this DUCK too!:yes::4_1_72:

The sperit is willing :yes: but at 60 there are things that at 30 I just did with out giving it a second thought -- now mostly I think about doing things but don't get round to doing them!:yes::4_1_72:

Another real concern is that if/when I get hurt:36_1_25: doing things alone --- I am also ON MY OWN to deal with the situation:yes: and a fall or other mishap out in this ruged country can get me DEAD:36_1_30: and no one would even come looking!:452:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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Ducky,

Only you can decide what to do with your friends' property.

Just know that if you buy it you never know what will happen...

Hey, you might even have some of the younger GIM generation hanging out there in a few years!

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QWAK,dosman,Well it liiks like it is going to happen,I just talked to Sam and he is going to sell off one beef and slauter the other monday and geting things ready for making there move.

I would hope some GIM types would want to come:yes: THAT is WHY I am doing it!:yes::36_3_13:

the DUCK :ok:

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You'll do fine Gold Duck, you don't seem to me as the type to always do what's easiest. If you don't want to risk it, you don't want it that much :36_3_13:

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Sounds like an invitation of some sort. What exacly does that mean, Mr Duck? :s1:

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QWAK,MidwestMan, IT IS:yes::thumb.aspx: -- It is my intention to SHARE this "SPECIAL PLACE" but one must keep in mind that "NOTHING is FREE :452: and GOOD things -- GOD THINGS :shine: --- require EFFORT for them to have REAL VALUE!:thinkey::shine:

I invision having people come with campers and tents etc. come for visets --perhaps 4th of July camp outs etc. with nightly camp fires and planing sesions. Day time activities developing various projects,clearing trails and walking paths and camp seights.

Each adding to the "POT" what they can -- so there is even MORE to SHARE for the ones who will come in the future.:36_3_13:

Perhaps a yearly "GIM" CAMP OUT? :questionm:dontknow: Ware we could realy get to know other GIM people and share ideas and concepts --- PITCH IN and work so that at the end of the day there is a very real sence of having acomplished somthing and that because they came there is MORE and it is BETTER than befor they came!:yes::36_3_13::shine:

I DON'T want people who just want somthing for NOTHING:36_1_30: and just TRASH the PLACE!:452::shine:

It would be nice to perhaps set up a SHOOTING RANGE:yes::23_30_104: ware they can learn fire arm safty and hone ther skils and help others do the same.:thinkey:

Perhaps help plant a garden or set up a wood lot and gather wood for the camp fires? Help others learn to preserve food and other skills.

At this point I am sort of BRAIN STORMING :thinkey::dontknow: and need in put from others who are IDEALISTIC and have similar goals and intentions.:36_3_13::23_30_104::yes:

Some may want to stay longer :dontknow: and that would be OK too :yes::36_3_13: as long as they are adding TO not DETRACTING FROM:36_1_30: the goal of making it BETTER not WORSE by being there!:shine:

I am not shure exactly how to ORGANISE things at this point:stupido2::questionm:dontknow: BUT am open to sugestions and ideas that would HELP make it a "SPECIAL PLACE" to not only GET AWAY from the INSANITY of the MATRIX but also COUNTER the MATRIX reality that seems every ware today.:thinkey::yes::shine:

the DUCK :36_3_13::15_1_70v:

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QWAK,I was just looking for some old songs to post and came across this old Roger Miller song that I don't remember EVER hearing befor :452::confused_ma: and it occured to ME that Roger may have had ME or some one very much like me in mind when he wrote that song. :hahaha::thinkey:

The BEST part is ware he says "I'm a NUT!" just ocasionaly replace "NUT with DUCK" :hahaha::36_1_25::4_1_72::111::banana:


It is a CRAZY ASS WORLD out there :hahaha::thinkey::yes: Perhaps doing somthing that seems CRAZY :confused_ma: by the NORMS -- OUT THERE -- can COUNTER balance as small part of THAT INSANITY!:thinkey::questionm:stupido2::dontknow:

I think it could be FUN trying:yes::23_30_104: -- I have done many other LESS WORTH WILE and WILD things!:yes::23_30_104::confused_ma::wub:

It's OK to be a NUT :yes:--- as long as you don't HURT:36_1_30: no body!:yes::36_3_13::shine:

the DUCK :23_30_104::15_1_70v:

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Could have your own self sufficient farm there.

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QWAK,Tallships,IT already IS for the most part -- got to have some income to buy things you can't or don't grow etc. but Sam even grew some TOBACCO in the garden this year!:yes::23_30_104:

This place actualy has some soil that will grow stuff ware as the DUCK NEST is up on a ridge and is mostly rock and trees.

Could be fun looking for the LOST SILVER MINE too!:23_30_104::yes::getdown:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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Well I think your idea of a GIM-get-together/property improvements/upgrades/firing-range-creation/gardening/party-to-finish is excellent. I would like to participate/contribute.

So ... count me in and I accept the spirit of what is offered.

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QWAK,I was finaly able to get threw to Mr.George Gordon or rather his wife. :23_30_104::stupido2::questionm

They offer a training corse on traiding in GOLD MONEY and have contracts that help people buy LAND (perhaps other stuff :questionm) and avoid GOVERNMENT hastles.:stupido2::questionm

She mentioned up front the COST -- 4.5 OZ of GOLD! :36_1_25: :hahaha: :thinkey: --- YEA like THAT is going to happen with the DUCK!:452: :thumb.aspx: :4_1_72: :111:

She talked about having TWO contracts -- ONE a CONTRACT of payments of $$$ and GOODS and VALUABLE conciderations.:thinkey:

When the first contract is met/fofilled and both parties sign off the SECOND contract -- a CONTRACT of DEAD is also signed and the actual ownership is also transfered.:23_30_104::23_31_2:

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I was concidering puting it in to a TRUST so it would be protected BUT she said that A TRUST puts the GOVERNMENT in charge of making shure the TRUST functions! :thumb.aspx: :10_1_19: :banghead: :banghead:

As a kid I remember:thinkey: watching a program called "The MILLIONEAR" and all the problems and hastles of GIVING away MONEY and also for the people recieving the MONEY!:36_1_25: :10_1_19: :cry1:

I am no MILLIONEAR -- I am not even HALF way there :452::111: but I shure can NOW IDENTIFY with the story plot!:yes::yes::wink:

I want to ULTIMITLY give it ALL AWAY :yes: :36_3_13: -- I just want to PLAY with it FIRST and see that it is protected and passed on so lots of others can INJOY it TOO!:36_3_13: :shine:

I figured it would be EASY and FUN too!:yes: :23_30_104: :23_31_2:
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The SYSTEM just AINT set up:36_1_30: for MY WAY of THINKING :thinkey: or way of doing things.:452: :confused_ma:

I feel like the "ANTIMATTER DUCK":36_1_25: because MY goal is to GIVE it AWAY and NOT try to GET MORE!:111: :cry1: It DON'T MATTER to ME!!:452: :111: :cry1:

There MUST be somthing VERY WRONG in my HEAD :yes: :36_1_25: :10_1_19: I even INVENTED "NOTHING DAY":36_1_25: :yes: :111: :cry1: :shine:

I should have asked Mrs. Gordon to put me on HER "NOTHING DAY" list and just send ME a "NOTHING DAY" present -- :111::cry1: I mean how much would it COST to coppy a fiew CDS and printed contracts and instruction books?? :questionm:questionm 4.5 OZ. of GOLD seems a bit :36_1_30:GREEDY to ME!!:yes:

Has any one else NOTICED that it is geting harder and HARDER --just to be a GOOD and HONIST PERSON and not be GREEDY or get taken ADVANTAGE of by GREEDY people?:questionm:stupido2::dontknow:

I am going to go PONDER some on this at 104 degrees :yes::banghead::banghead:

the DUCK :15_1_70v::10_1_19:

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the "system" is set up FOR 'our' way of thinking- what is the capital gains rate on gold? 35%
? 40%? 75%? What is the capital gains rate on stocks? 15%? 10%? 0%?

the "system" just wasn't set up by we the people, it was set up by them, the banksters, FOR we the people : )

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QWAK,icq182,There is NO GAIN on GOLD :452: It is HARD MONEY -- there FAKE CURRENCY just keeps losing VALUE!:yes::thumb.aspx:

I just did WITH OUT and SAVED in REAL MONEY:thinkey: -- offical US MONEY:yes: -- the GOVERNMENT has NO PLACE in the DEAL:452: other than the TRANSFER of OWNERSHIP being recorded with the county and the anual taxes being payed.:yes:

As long as the buyer and seller are satisfied :thinkey: we could be swaping a TRUCK for LAND or a MUEL or what ever!:yes:

the DUCK

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Don, still waiting on the pictures that this thread needs to bring it to life.

Especially if you scout the property and see something like this:

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QWAK,Keef, I KNOW -- I know! :banghead::banghead::banghead:

I was locked out of posting for 3 days recently because I tried doing somthing on my computer and IT was like being BANED last year at GIM -- I could see stuff but could NOT post -- could not even get in to YAHOO!!:rant::36_1_25:

I spent some time reloading the camera program but that did not help. :dontknow::stupido2: I thought thease things were suposed to be IDIOT PROOF!!:questionm:questionm I got a 147 IQ and they drive me CRAZY!:confused_ma::10_1_19::Surrender:

the DUCK

Re: QWAK,losing a friend -- selling a DREAM! :(
 

I agree completely- it's the monopoly money gaining and losing value, the REAL stuff ain't going anywhere. That's a shame that those people want 4.5 oz of gold for some paperwork and such! You'd think they could offer their services for cheaper. Did you ask them why it cost so much money? Maybe they are only used to dealing with the super wealthy because commoners like you and me can't get enough metal to buy a property!!

I don't know much about digital cameras but here is my advice.

Find a cord, one end should fit into your camera, the other end should fit into your USB drive. Plug one end into the camera, then plug the other end into the computer... turn the camera ON like you were going to take a picture... and it should just pop up on your screen... I suppose you've already tried this... easier said than done :banghead:

Re: QWAK,losing a friend -- selling a DREAM! :(
 

Why can't you just buy the land for say... something like 9,000 FRN's and do all the paperwork and deed recording. Then just give the seller the balance in Gold or whatever to satisfy the sellers real request.

Someone tell me how that does NOT work.

Re: QWAK,losing a friend -- selling a DREAM! :(
 

QWAK,icq182, "Find a cord, one end should fit into your camera, the other end should fit into your USB drive. Plug one end into the camera, then plug the other end into the computer... turn the camera ON like you were going to take a picture... and it should just pop up on your screen... I suppose you've already tried this... easier said than done " --- That is not the problem :452::452::signs14::4_1_72:
Trust me -- I can hook it up!! :yes:

As for the 4.5 OZ. of GOLD -- NOT in THIS LIFE TIME!!:452::452::452::4_1_72: Sounds like SCAM so loud it HURTS my EARS!:36_1_25:

But some of there information MAY be of VALUE :yes: NOT that much value to ME!!:452::thumb.aspx: Takes a long time to save up that much GOLD -- a lot of PB+J rather than STEAKS for a very long time!!:yes::36_1_25::signs14:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

Re: QWAK,losing a friend -- selling a DREAM! :(
 

4.5oz of gold! Way to much for that kind of information. Im sure if you dug deep enough you will find what he is preaching for free. Doing a quick internet search i came up with this. http://www.freelegalforms.net/index....=form15763.htm. That took me 1 minute to find, just saved 4.5oz. I know guys like him, i am sure he spent some time drawing up his contracts, in the end it is just words and a piece of paper. A contract is a contract, go to a real estate lawyer and he could draw one up for a fraction of the cost. Sorry it didnt work out.

Re: QWAK,losing a friend -- selling a DREAM! :(
 

QWAK,answer2me,I agree -- when she said 4.5 oz of GOLD -- my HEAD almost EXPLODED!:thumb.aspx::36_1_25::36_1_30:

It needs to be a GOLD CONTRACT that is LEGAL and wording IS important or so I have been told. :dontknow:

Sam sold his last place for CASH to a friend and they just used a LAWYER and filed the tital change them selves and it was over in 15 min!

The problem is CONVERTING the GOLD to FRNs and avoiding giving the GOVERNMENT 30% of what the IRS conciders APRECIATION on REAL US MONEY-- that is CRAZY in my mind!!:confused_ma::36_1_25::10_1_19:

I supose selling just a fiew coins at a time could work but would or could posably be a problem IF there is a paper trail? :dontknow:

I half way am thinking:thinkey: to just drop the issue and wait till AFTER the GOVERNMENT implods and the USA breaks up in to 4 or more smaller REGIONAL united states with or with out a FEDERAL GOVERNMENT as the federal government is a bankrupt corperation and will likely FAIL along with the US DOLLAR CURRENCY. :dontknow:

the DUCK geting very confused :confused_ma::10_1_19:

Re: QWAK,losing a friend -- selling a DREAM! :(
 

Good luck Duck. Sure sounds like a tangled-web so far.

Re: QWAK,losing a friend -- selling a DREAM! :(
 

QWAK,MNeagle,It does have all the indications of a FIRST CLASS CLUSTER F**K:36_1_25::yes::4_1_72: -- now that I think about it from that perspective! :thumb.aspx::confused_m:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

Re: QWAK,losing a friend -- selling a DREAM! :(
 

Duck!

Selling one or two coins a time for cash, what paper trail!!

You could hit several coin shops in and around your area say
one or more coins at a time for cash.
Every week or so and make your payments spread out...

Edit: Also maybe selling here some.

There may be members here that would be happy to
relieve you of some or all of your stash.

Re: QWAK,losing a friend -- selling a DREAM! :(
 

many dealers around here will not even cut you a CHECK unless you show them identification papers. Don't think there're many`dealers around the duck. Still - should not be too hard to get FRNs. You could try craigslist - just make sure to bring a gun with you when you meet up ( duh ) and make sure they're not following you - don't want to lead them back to the duck cave ( again duh ) !
There're some great folks on this site too who might be willing to send you FRNs or at least money orders : )

The sellers would be crazy NOT to accept some gold as payment, just deduct it from the purchase price - artificially deflating the purchase price could result in less scrutiny ( ie where did a duck get this many FRNs? Not that it's their business ). I would say it could also help lower your tax burden, but that doesn't seem to be an issue currently.

Re: QWAK,losing a friend -- selling a DREAM! :(
 

QWAK,After many years of saving SILVER QUARTERS from my little side business :wink::wink::wink: the GOVERNMENT:evil::pissedoff: would want 30% of my SAVINGS:questionm:questionm:questionm

http://www.madblast.com/funny/1551_p...peep-show.html


That is just SOoooooooooooooooo WRONG:36_1_30: --- on SOooooooooooooo many levels!!:yes::36_1_25::cry1::111:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

Re: QWAK,losing a friend -- selling a DREAM! :(
 

If this gentleman and you are friends, and trust eachother, then you just go title the property. He fills out a quitclaim deed to you, for consideration of ONE DOLLAR (FRN, no less). Signs it over. You pay whatever taxes and BS fees of the title insurance. You all go out in the parking lot and you hand him your gold. There is no law about a man deeding his property away, as long as there is some consideration.

I had to have an almost wife deed me property to a house we shared. I paid her $1 and she signed it.

I have ways with women :)

Re: QWAK,losing a friend -- selling a DREAM! :(
 

I'm very happy for ya Duck, sounds like a great place. Sorry at the same time for having your friend move away. Anyway, I hope it works out and that you're in the new Duck Nest very soon!

:coolbeer: :signs1: :RockOn:

Re: QWAK,losing a friend -- selling a DREAM! :(
 

Hey DUCK you keep us posted on any new developments, OK? Any luck with that digital camera?

Re: QWAK,losing a friend -- selling a DREAM! :(
 

QWAK,icq182,No change so far Tommy is looking on line for places in Oklahoma and Sam has new job in this aeria with longer days but more days off and I am just PREPING and geting ready for winter. :s1:

I have not messed with the camera. :signs14:

With all the crazyness and TUNGSTON GOLD bars and JPM being 200 million OZ short SILVER :36_1_25::confused_ma:I think by spring time or mid summer they too may agree -- it would be BEST if they did NOT:36_1_30: move and stayed ware they are!:yes: :36_3_13: :shine:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

Re: QWAK,losing a friend -- selling a DREAM! :(
 

QWAK,The PLAN is coming together!:36_1_11: Sam and Tommy have found a place they like and will be returning to make a closer inspection and an OFFER to buy, IF they can come to agreement with the owner who like SOooooooooo many others, is hard pressed for cash and very motivated to sell! :23_30_104:

It looks like the deal will go down around or shortly after the first of the year and I will have to sell some EAGLES to get the CASH/FRNs that Sam and Tommy will need to make there deal happen. :shakehand

We will likely sell 4 or 5 EAGLES each (several times) to APMEX ano other dealers, to get the cash and :36_1_30:hopfully stay under the radar for the GREEDY SOBs:secruity: who think they should get a piece of the transaction!:censored::confused_ma: (Any sugestions on this would be apreciated)

I would like to offer some "DUCK GOLD" here to other GIM members:yes::23_30_104: so if any are interested or feel they may be in early Jan. (when hopfully POG will agen be $1200.00+ :wink:) please contact me and let me know and we will try to make some arangments to make it happen. :36_1_11:

Agen NOTHING is yet finalised :452: so it could fall apart:dontknow: but it is looking like IT will happen:yes: and I do want to share this special place with other GIM type people and turn it in to a very special place!:shine:

The 40 acher "DUCK NEST" is more than I need already :yes: but It is my perception:thinkey: that when ABUNDENCE comes one should SHARE the ABUNDENCE and in so doing it will continue to GROW even larger!:shine:

It is my intention to set up both the "DUCK NEST" and this NEW PLACE (I may call it the "DUCK POND" :questionm:stupido2::dontknow: in some sort of a TRUST that would be PERPETUAL and self sustaining and protected from both the GOVERNMENT and other GREEDY people who would WISH to exploit or take unfair advantage threw law suits ETC.:evil::pissedoff: so I would also APRECIATE any input any may have on how best to do THAT!:yes: :36_1_11: :23_30_104:

I both want and expect the "DUCK NEST" and "DUCK POND" to continue on -- long after I am gone :shine: It will be my LAST "NOTHING DAY" gift to be shared and injoyed by others who will HOPFULLY share the concept that ----- "ALL is ONE" and that "ALL that we do -- both TO and FOR others -- we ultimitly DO to and FOR our selves:yes: threw our POSTARITY -- the ones who come later.:yes: :36_3_13: :shine: "IT is NEVER OVER -- things just CHANGE!":thinkey::36_3_13:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

Re: QWAK,losing a friend -- selling a DREAM! :(
 

I do hope you can get some sound advice on this, Duck. Perpetual trusts are not very perpetual, not once some powerful interest brings expensive lawyers into overturning them.

Folk during the middle ages gave money and property (worth millions in modern money) to the Roman Catholic Church to have Masses said for their souls in perpetuity. Not many masses being said for them now, but it is several hundred years.

In the late 19th and early 20th centuries people in England gave land for parks and playing fields to be enjoyed for ever by the citizens of their towns and cities. Many of them are already housing estates, etc after only about 100 years.

From what you say, it seems the same sort of thing goes on in the USA. Perpetual Trusts are about as permanent as fiat currencies. :rant:

Re: QWAK,losing a friend -- selling a DREAM! :(
 

QWAK,argentos,I am shure you are right :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: and that same thought has haunted me too! :36_1_25::favorites21:

Sort of like working hard all your life only to have a child or grand child PISS it ALL AWAY after one is gone!:realmad: :rant: :508:

At this point just selling some GOLD EAGLES to buy the land -- with out the GOV. demaning a piece of it:secruity: is driving me INSAINE!!:pissedoff::10_1_19: :censored: :banghead: :rant: :realmad:

CORRUPTION and GREED are the NORM:yes::36_1_25: but it just seems there MUST be SOME WAY to leave somthing that lasts:36_3_13: with out some SOME SOB trying to get somthing for FREE!:questionm:stupido2: :dontknow:

the DUCK :15_1_70v: